Episode Summary 
This one has been causing quite a bit of buzz. When Adobe released Lightroom 2 (and the accompanying 4.5 update to Camera Raw) they released these camera profiles on the Adobe Labs website. In a nutshell, these profiles match the camera manufacturers color appearance of your photos. So if you've ever opened your photo in Nikon's or Canon's software and been happier with the way it looked there vs. Lightroom, then you'll love these things. I'll tell you all about 'em, where to download them, and how to use them in this week's video. Make sure you let us all know if and how they're working out for you in the comments section here. Thanks!























Hi Matt…thanks for the great video! I downloaded the profiles and noticed the change, but all I see come up is ACR 4.3…I don’t get any of the other options…checked on the Adobe support pages as well and not sure what I’m doing wrong – they’re definitely RAW files…
In either event, keep up the great work!
Hi Matt…thanks for the great video! I downloaded the profiles and noticed the change, but all I see come up is ACR 4.3…I don’t get any of the other options…checked on the Adobe support pages as well and not sure what I’m doing wrong – they’re definitely RAW files…
In either event, keep up the great work!
Looks pretty good and works just fine with the canon of my girlfriend but it seems that this beta version doesn’t support many camera manufacturers (only canon / nikon it seems to me). I hope there will be support for Sony / Minolta etc. too in the final version.
Looks pretty good and works just fine with the canon of my girlfriend but it seems that this beta version doesn’t support many camera manufacturers (only canon / nikon it seems to me). I hope there will be support for Sony / Minolta etc. too in the final version.
Thanks Matt – This is a real timesaver !
rock on !!!
Thanks Matt – This is a real timesaver !
rock on !!!
Just to answer a question further up in the comments, no the camera profiles do not work on JPEGs. That’s because when you get a JPEG out of the camera, it has already had the selected profile applied to the raw data. So they work OK on RAW or DNG files, but not on JPEGs. Actually I thought Matt might have clarified that in the video
Just to answer a question further up in the comments, no the camera profiles do not work on JPEGs. That’s because when you get a JPEG out of the camera, it has already had the selected profile applied to the raw data. So they work OK on RAW or DNG files, but not on JPEGs. Actually I thought Matt might have clarified that in the video
I’ve install the profiles but i can see them under Camera Calibration,
The only think i see is
Profile : Embedded, Why
I’ve install the profiles but i can see them under Camera Calibration,
The only think i see is
Profile : Embedded, Why
Thank you so much for this information! I don’t have Lightroom 2.0, but the settings do work with CameraRaw through Photoshop CS3. I’ve never liked the straight NEF images from my camera, and have always had to do a lot of work to make the images look good to me. The camera calibration setting make a great image almost without having to do any other changes in Camera Raw/Photoshop. Thanks to the Adobe engineers for making this available to us.
Thank you so much for this information! I don’t have Lightroom 2.0, but the settings do work with CameraRaw through Photoshop CS3. I’ve never liked the straight NEF images from my camera, and have always had to do a lot of work to make the images look good to me. The camera calibration setting make a great image almost without having to do any other changes in Camera Raw/Photoshop. Thanks to the Adobe engineers for making this available to us.
Like the others, the only thing I see is embedded?? Please help.
Like the others, the only thing I see is embedded?? Please help.
i also found the “too red” issue.
my camera is canon 5d. by using portrait (and other) presets from the beta profile, the image becomes too reddish… i have to tune it down using color balance slider.
i also found the “too red” issue.
my camera is canon 5d. by using portrait (and other) presets from the beta profile, the image becomes too reddish… i have to tune it down using color balance slider.
Looking good, but mostly looking forward to some additional profiles… have you heard about Pentax…
All I get is a an Adobe Standard Beta 1 and not much of a change from the original Pentax 1.0 version…
Looking good, but mostly looking forward to some additional profiles… have you heard about Pentax…
All I get is a an Adobe Standard Beta 1 and not much of a change from the original Pentax 1.0 version…
‘ me thinks the profiles are file specific, use Cannon raw see cannon use nikon see nikon, use a fuji you just get Acr’s and Standard Beta…
I thats my take on it, good tip and heads up thought thanks 4 that…
from over the pond GB
‘ me thinks the profiles are file specific, use Cannon raw see cannon use nikon see nikon, use a fuji you just get Acr’s and Standard Beta…
I thats my take on it, good tip and heads up thought thanks 4 that…
from over the pond GB
Thanks for the excellent work on the video. Shame that Pentax don’t appear to be supported yet.
Thanks for the excellent work on the video. Shame that Pentax don’t appear to be supported yet.
What a great feature!
I’ve installed these and am using them as import presets. That way my photos come in with D300 standard.
Big improvement over the Lightroom default. Thanks, Matt!
What a great feature!
I’ve installed these and am using them as import presets. That way my photos come in with D300 standard.
Big improvement over the Lightroom default. Thanks, Matt!
With my Canon G9 shooting raw I only get the Adobe standard beta 1 profile. However, with my Canon D10 I get 6 profiles. Can you explain please.
Thank you for your informative information.
Aloha.
With my Canon G9 shooting raw I only get the Adobe standard beta 1 profile. However, with my Canon D10 I get 6 profiles. Can you explain please.
Thank you for your informative information.
Aloha.
Matt,
I already installed the profiles a while ago. Because I have different subject with different lighting conditions, I’m still ‘struggling’ to find the right profile for each subject/situation.
Matt,
I already installed the profiles a while ago. Because I have different subject with different lighting conditions, I’m still ‘struggling’ to find the right profile for each subject/situation.
Hi Matt,
thx for the tip… It´s really timesaving…
Hi Matt,
thx for the tip… It´s really timesaving…
Hi there,
Canon 5D shooter here. The camera profiles appears to be adding chromatic aberration in several of my pictures.
See before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2820093815_c96d85e0d4_o.png
After:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2820093379_9873336f27_o.png
Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it’s just the shoot?
Fred
Hi there,
Canon 5D shooter here. The camera profiles appears to be adding chromatic aberration in several of my pictures.
See before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2820093815_c96d85e0d4_o.png
After:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2820093379_9873336f27_o.png
Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it’s just the shoot?
Fred
Hi Matt! I tried this on and it is amazing!
I shot a few days ago some pictures of our open MRI System with ambilight. And as I looked at my photos I was quite disappointed as the colored lights were burnt out even with best exposure, flash HDR and so on like that
http://flickr.com/photos/zeile/2822150858/
Then i tried the Standard profile and -tatataaaahhhh!!!! Smooth light, perfect detail, no burnt out color. Amazing!!!!
See here:
http://flickr.com/photos/zeile/2821314023/
Now I can get to work to apply it to my good shots which I like to present to the public.
Thanks a lot!!!
Hi Matt! I tried this on and it is amazing!
I shot a few days ago some pictures of our open MRI System with ambilight. And as I looked at my photos I was quite disappointed as the colored lights were burnt out even with best exposure, flash HDR and so on like that
http://flickr.com/photos/zeile/2822150858/
Then i tried the Standard profile and -tatataaaahhhh!!!! Smooth light, perfect detail, no burnt out color. Amazing!!!!
See here:
http://flickr.com/photos/zeile/2821314023/
Now I can get to work to apply it to my good shots which I like to present to the public.
Thanks a lot!!!
LR 2.0 does not load/recognize any of my icc profiles for my epson r1800 printer. PS CS3 has all of them, and I can print on any paper to my epson, but when I’m in LR print module, nothing shows up but one HP profile that I don’t use.
LR 2.0 does not load/recognize any of my icc profiles for my epson r1800 printer. PS CS3 has all of them, and I can print on any paper to my epson, but when I’m in LR print module, nothing shows up but one HP profile that I don’t use.
Matt…
Thanks for these calibrations…they are great. I have used them several times in Lr2 and PSCs3…
Again thanks for a great video…alway great…
Frank
Matt…
Thanks for these calibrations…they are great. I have used them several times in Lr2 and PSCs3…
Again thanks for a great video…alway great…
Frank
Thanks Matt .. that makes things very clear. I’m a Nikon chooter, and lover of CNX2, but purchased LR2 to help make my workflow a bit quicker. I’ve been really unhappy because of the way Adobe tended to drop all my wonderful Nikon settings, both in CRS3 & LR2, before downloading these presets.
I don’t find the colors exact, but close enough. But I have 2 questions. I sometimes shoot Standard with a saturation level of 2 … do I set my calibration in LR2 to Standard, and then pump up the saturation in each color channel to 2? This comes close, but again only approximates what my CNX2 shows. Is there another way to do this?
Also … LR2 does not capture my in-camera white balance in the As Shot mode … is there any way to do a preset of something that approximates what I get in-camera/on CNX2?
Thanks.
Thanks Matt .. that makes things very clear. I’m a Nikon chooter, and lover of CNX2, but purchased LR2 to help make my workflow a bit quicker. I’ve been really unhappy because of the way Adobe tended to drop all my wonderful Nikon settings, both in CRS3 & LR2, before downloading these presets.
I don’t find the colors exact, but close enough. But I have 2 questions. I sometimes shoot Standard with a saturation level of 2 … do I set my calibration in LR2 to Standard, and then pump up the saturation in each color channel to 2? This comes close, but again only approximates what my CNX2 shows. Is there another way to do this?
Also … LR2 does not capture my in-camera white balance in the As Shot mode … is there any way to do a preset of something that approximates what I get in-camera/on CNX2?
Thanks.
I have installed the download and all I see in my calibration window on any photo is “embedded”. What am I doing wrong?
I have installed the download and all I see in my calibration window on any photo is “embedded”. What am I doing wrong?
@Jim
It only works on RAW file; for jpg or other formats lightroom can only read the embedded colour profiles and hence can’t make the changes.
@Jim
It only works on RAW file; for jpg or other formats lightroom can only read the embedded colour profiles and hence can’t make the changes.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for pointing out the camera profiles! I was not aware of them. I have been struggling with whether to use RAW or JPEG because of this very issue. However, after some quick test with the new camera profiles, I must SAY I am kind of disappointed. It still doesn’t get close to what the JPEG looks like. In fact, I found that the “D200NX” presets created by Lars Gotfredsen at http://www.onethirdstop.com creates a much better picture. Of course this is subjective and I only work on a small sample. The downside to Lars’s preset is that it will affect the hue and saturation sliders, whereas the Adobe one doesn’t. Oh well… I will have to keep taking both the JPEG and RAW until Adobe can get it right…
Hi Matt,
Thanks for pointing out the camera profiles! I was not aware of them. I have been struggling with whether to use RAW or JPEG because of this very issue. However, after some quick test with the new camera profiles, I must SAY I am kind of disappointed. It still doesn’t get close to what the JPEG looks like. In fact, I found that the “D200NX” presets created by Lars Gotfredsen at http://www.onethirdstop.com creates a much better picture. Of course this is subjective and I only work on a small sample. The downside to Lars’s preset is that it will affect the hue and saturation sliders, whereas the Adobe one doesn’t. Oh well… I will have to keep taking both the JPEG and RAW until Adobe can get it right…
Matt – These camera profiles are really helpful. I’ve put LR1 snapshots on some of my best photos, and then gone back to the Imported or Cropped imaged, and then applied a camera profile and the LR preset landscape sharpening — and I was already 90% done! 2 settings replacing 6-12 settings & adjustments before! Once these shots were 100% done, I did a “Y” for before & after, and the differences are significant. The time savings x the improvements + a grad filter or adjustment brush here & there — OMG, I feel like I’m working with LR 4.0 in comparison to what we could only do in LR1! And BTW, the grad filter & adjustment brush alone are worth the cost of LR2! Not to speak of the creative time saved during a shoot, when we can compose and capture images, instead of messing with grad filters! It feels like the digital darkroom has now really come of age.
Matt – These camera profiles are really helpful. I’ve put LR1 snapshots on some of my best photos, and then gone back to the Imported or Cropped imaged, and then applied a camera profile and the LR preset landscape sharpening — and I was already 90% done! 2 settings replacing 6-12 settings & adjustments before! Once these shots were 100% done, I did a “Y” for before & after, and the differences are significant. The time savings x the improvements + a grad filter or adjustment brush here & there — OMG, I feel like I’m working with LR 4.0 in comparison to what we could only do in LR1! And BTW, the grad filter & adjustment brush alone are worth the cost of LR2! Not to speak of the creative time saved during a shoot, when we can compose and capture images, instead of messing with grad filters! It feels like the digital darkroom has now really come of age.
I looked at the video on 9-3-08, downloaded the profiles, tried them out
right away, and like you was very pleased with the results. Very easy to download and use. Also downloaded and use the other presets you had
for downloading. Thanks for your good tips.
I looked at the video on 9-3-08, downloaded the profiles, tried them out
right away, and like you was very pleased with the results. Very easy to download and use. Also downloaded and use the other presets you had
for downloading. Thanks for your good tips.
Matt, thanks a bunch for bringing these to our attention! Since installing them for LR2, my starting point for image editing is looking much better.
Matt, thanks a bunch for bringing these to our attention! Since installing them for LR2, my starting point for image editing is looking much better.
Installed the camera profiles and “Camera Portrait beta 1″ for the Canon 5D is making skin look way too red. Actually there seems to be a redish tint to all the Canon 5D profiles. I believe another user with Fuji camera had the same problem.
Installed the camera profiles and “Camera Portrait beta 1″ for the Canon 5D is making skin look way too red. Actually there seems to be a redish tint to all the Canon 5D profiles. I believe another user with Fuji camera had the same problem.
For those that are only seeing “Embedded” as a profile. This is because you are looking at a JPG where the profile is basically “baked in” by the camera. The profiles only work on RAW and yes, DNG files as well.
I tested these against the same images opened in NX2 and they are really close. Not an exact match, but a really good approximation.
It was enough to pull me back to Lightroom. Good job Adobe!
For those that are only seeing “Embedded” as a profile. This is because you are looking at a JPG where the profile is basically “baked in” by the camera. The profiles only work on RAW and yes, DNG files as well.
I tested these against the same images opened in NX2 and they are really close. Not an exact match, but a really good approximation.
It was enough to pull me back to Lightroom. Good job Adobe!
Matt,
If you could put in a good word for those of us who shoot with Pentax
Matt,
If you could put in a good word for those of us who shoot with Pentax
Hi
I wonder if these presets substitute the calibration presets I made with my cameras with the gretag color chart? I used AcrCalibrator (which works in Photoshop) from ‘chromoholics’ for that.
How accurate are these profiles? Canon’s Digital Photo Professional is well known for its fantastic skin tones. I haven’t tested it yet with my pictures but do we really get these colors in LR now?
Thanks for this great site!
Sacha
Hi
I wonder if these presets substitute the calibration presets I made with my cameras with the gretag color chart? I used AcrCalibrator (which works in Photoshop) from ‘chromoholics’ for that.
How accurate are these profiles? Canon’s Digital Photo Professional is well known for its fantastic skin tones. I haven’t tested it yet with my pictures but do we really get these colors in LR now?
Thanks for this great site!
Sacha
Hi,
Do we just see different colours in lightroom with these presets and then when jpgs are exported they go back to looking like they did before? Is there any actual advantage, apart from feeling a bit better when looking at the shots on screen and they look a bit more pleasing? The shape of the histogram is changing between presets.
Also, when it says ‘Camera D2X’ – Is it wrong to assume that this is for a D2X and not a D3, which I am shooting on?
Sorry but I am a bit confused!
Thanks
Nick
Hi,
Do we just see different colours in lightroom with these presets and then when jpgs are exported they go back to looking like they did before? Is there any actual advantage, apart from feeling a bit better when looking at the shots on screen and they look a bit more pleasing? The shape of the histogram is changing between presets.
Also, when it says ‘Camera D2X’ – Is it wrong to assume that this is for a D2X and not a D3, which I am shooting on?
Sorry but I am a bit confused!
Thanks
Nick
First class video, and obviously enthused many to use the new profiles. Maybe time to start encouraging Adobe to include a conversion element for v. high ISO noise in their next version. All the recent Nikon SLRs are offering outstanding RAW files at previously unheard of ISOs, and View/CaptureNX is converting them, using the Nikon secret sauce, far more effectively than even the new Lr profiles. Two years ago, few would have imagined shooting at ISO 6400. Today it is an every day – or night – occurrence with the D3. And where that leads, the rest will soon follow.
First class video, and obviously enthused many to use the new profiles. Maybe time to start encouraging Adobe to include a conversion element for v. high ISO noise in their next version. All the recent Nikon SLRs are offering outstanding RAW files at previously unheard of ISOs, and View/CaptureNX is converting them, using the Nikon secret sauce, far more effectively than even the new Lr profiles. Two years ago, few would have imagined shooting at ISO 6400. Today it is an every day – or night – occurrence with the D3. And where that leads, the rest will soon follow.
Is this for Nikon only? I’m a Canon users
Debbi
Is this for Nikon only? I’m a Canon users
Debbi
Thanks for the calibration info Matt.. What a huge difference – and a very nice place to start as well…
-Rick O – CT
http://www.rickophotography.com
Thanks for the calibration info Matt.. What a huge difference – and a very nice place to start as well…
-Rick O – CT
http://www.rickophotography.com
Matt: After downloading the profiles I tried the Faithful for the Canon canera and boy did that make a word of difference not only in the background color cast but skin tone. I unfortunately had to shoot in high noon daylight but also in a forest where the green color overtook the image. But the profile changed all that and I have less work to do on the pictures.
Thanks for the update.
David-NY
Matt: After downloading the profiles I tried the Faithful for the Canon canera and boy did that make a word of difference not only in the background color cast but skin tone. I unfortunately had to shoot in high noon daylight but also in a forest where the green color overtook the image. But the profile changed all that and I have less work to do on the pictures.
Thanks for the update.
David-NY
Matt,
Thank you very much for the video on the profiles. However, I would like to know something about the flower used as an example. Was it shot outside in available light and if so, how do you get the lighting to look so soft and even across the entire photo? Thank you for any time you can afford towards a reply!
Greg Zenitsky
Lee’s Summit, MO
Matt,
Thank you very much for the video on the profiles. However, I would like to know something about the flower used as an example. Was it shot outside in available light and if so, how do you get the lighting to look so soft and even across the entire photo? Thank you for any time you can afford towards a reply!
Greg Zenitsky
Lee’s Summit, MO
i have an incredible change at color gradient.
sample pictures are here:
http://www.taog.de:/austausch/lr-killertips/drummer-acr4_4.jpg
http://www.taog.de:/austausch/lr-killertips/drummer-camera_standard_eos20d.jpg
i have an incredible change at color gradient.
sample pictures are here:
http://www.taog.de:/austausch/lr-killertips/drummer-acr4_4.jpg
http://www.taog.de:/austausch/lr-killertips/drummer-camera_standard_eos20d.jpg
Hi,
Thanks for the excellent video.
This is an improvement respect to the old situation, but still is not satisfying. My jpg’s in camera or with Canon DPP are still better than LR using the profiles. LR does not read the camera settings and even tweaking around it is difficult to get nice colors as you get in DPP or jopg.
It is an step in the right sdirestion but I guess is not that easy to mimic other manufacturer experience in converting and interpreting raw data
Hi,
Thanks for the excellent video.
This is an improvement respect to the old situation, but still is not satisfying. My jpg’s in camera or with Canon DPP are still better than LR using the profiles. LR does not read the camera settings and even tweaking around it is difficult to get nice colors as you get in DPP or jopg.
It is an step in the right sdirestion but I guess is not that easy to mimic other manufacturer experience in converting and interpreting raw data
I too only get “embedded” HELP
What do I need to do to see what I installed?
I too only get “embedded” HELP
What do I need to do to see what I installed?
is anyone having trouble loading profiles. i can’t get the file to unzip and load.
is anyone having trouble loading profiles. i can’t get the file to unzip and load.
Difference in colours and vibrancy was noticed immediately. Sometimes I find that the presets are all that really need tweaking. Thanks for the tip.
Difference in colours and vibrancy was noticed immediately. Sometimes I find that the presets are all that really need tweaking. Thanks for the tip.
Mat,
You said that using a camera profile affects just the apperance of the image on the screen. Then, if I print an image twice, one with a particular profile, and the other one with a different one, the printed result would look the same ????
Thanks !
Daniel.
Mat,
You said that using a camera profile affects just the apperance of the image on the screen. Then, if I print an image twice, one with a particular profile, and the other one with a different one, the printed result would look the same ????
Thanks !
Daniel.
Matt -
I installed the camera profiles, but they are not showing up in lightroom. This works for DNG and NEF files, correct? I have a new D90, so I downloaded the new ACR 4.6 beta, and installed the Lightroom 2.1 release candidate. Could that be why they are not showing up? Or is it because the D90 is a new camera? Sorry, just not quite sure why I’m not seeing the profiles.
Kevin
Matt -
I installed the camera profiles, but they are not showing up in lightroom. This works for DNG and NEF files, correct? I have a new D90, so I downloaded the new ACR 4.6 beta, and installed the Lightroom 2.1 release candidate. Could that be why they are not showing up? Or is it because the D90 is a new camera? Sorry, just not quite sure why I’m not seeing the profiles.
Kevin
I’ve encountered the same problem as Kevin.
Dale
I’ve encountered the same problem as Kevin.
Dale
What is the trick to make my let say Canon to show for example Nikon profile?
What is the trick to make my let say Canon to show for example Nikon profile?
I installed the Nikon profiles. But, they don’t seem to work. They are showing up in the user presets and not under the Camera Calibration Module.
I installed the Nikon profiles. But, they don’t seem to work. They are showing up in the user presets and not under the Camera Calibration Module.
All I get is “embedded” too. Would appreciate some help. Thanks
All I get is “embedded” too. Would appreciate some help. Thanks
I spent a couple of hours last night trying to install the Camera Profiles.
The download and installer ran just fine. However, when I start LR2.1 and
go to ‘Develop/Camera Calibration’, I have only ACR 4.6 displayed as the
only choice. I have yet to see ‘Adobe Standard’. Is it possible ‘Camera Profiles’ will not install with LR2.1/ACR 4.6? The documentation states:
LR2.0/LR2.1 and ACR 4.3 OR LATER. HELP!
I spent a couple of hours last night trying to install the Camera Profiles.
The download and installer ran just fine. However, when I start LR2.1 and
go to ‘Develop/Camera Calibration’, I have only ACR 4.6 displayed as the
only choice. I have yet to see ‘Adobe Standard’. Is it possible ‘Camera Profiles’ will not install with LR2.1/ACR 4.6? The documentation states:
LR2.0/LR2.1 and ACR 4.3 OR LATER. HELP!
Update: I’m pretty sure the current beta version of ‘Camera Profiles’
does not include the D90. I’ll try to prove that tonight.
Update: I’m pretty sure the current beta version of ‘Camera Profiles’
does not include the D90. I’ll try to prove that tonight.
It’d be really nice if this video had a recognisable extention, Matt
I have save this file, rename the .m4v extention to .mp4 and then try and play it… sheesh! What happend to just having it play directly in the browser?
It’d be really nice if this video had a recognisable extention, Matt
I have save this file, rename the .m4v extention to .mp4 and then try and play it… sheesh! What happend to just having it play directly in the browser?